- Jim's favorite guitarist, Ian Bairnson. (Ian played guitar on "Tearing Down the Wall" from "The Selfish Giant.")
- David Paton bassist for these two bands.
Jim 'n' Dee - Their personal site, also covering some of their pre-BatP music accomplishments. Sorry to say, we haven't updated this site in a long, long time. Maybe we shouldn't even have this link here.